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Friday, September 16, 2005

Abortion Lies: What is being told to innocent 15 yr olds.

From a discussion, the woman is named "Cindy". She is 15 and is 4 months pregnant. Fearing her parents disownment she sets off to get an abortion. While in the clinic she tells the counselor she has reservations and doesn't really want an abortion. The counselor tears up the consent form. This is whaere it gets interesting and the lies start!

"......They hooked me up with a lady that was willing to do a embryo transplant and adopt my baby. However on that day I did an ultra sound and we found out the baby had died. The doctor said I should continue with the abortion procedure since it would be the fastest way to remove the baby's body to prevent infections. For a wonderful 25min I thought my baby was going to live and be happy. Then it was dead. I was in a lot of pain after the procedure, but my boyfriend was really supportive. He took care of me and I soon recovered. Now I see cry sometimes, but I guess it was for the best. At least I know my baby is in a better place."

This is from a responder:
I have been involved with pro-life work for many years and the "embryo transplant" she mentions is not something I have EVER heard to be a reality. True embryos are implanted during a transfer or implant usually during the very early blastocyst stage (generally taken from a petri dish), and always prior to implantation, but this girl was 17 weeks pregnant She claims at the clinic she told them she didn't want to abort so they decided to link her to a woman who would, in essence, continue the pregnancy for her.

The clinic would remove the live baby from her womb and place it in the womb of the other woman where it would go to term and be born as the child of woman #2. Presumably, this is meant to alleviate the guilt of killing the child through abortion and keep the girl from the pain of relinquishing through adoption AFTER she had seen her baby. Then, SURPRISE, they realize the baby is dead so they must perform the abortion to remove the dead baby. Does this sound like a BIG FAT LIE to you????

Fact is they can't transfer an embryo that developed once it has attached itself to the mothers womb. Embryonic transpants happen during in-vitro while the embryo is still in the celluar stages.

The respondant goes on to say:
I sent a this story to a friend of mine who is a nurse. She sent me the following reply: "This is medically impossible. The placenta attaches to the uterine lining and transports nutrients and waste products. It is impossible to take the placenta from one mother and cause it to attach in another. Think too of the mixing of blood types. This is nothing more than a big fat lie."

I am curious to know about what other lies and manipulatons are being tossed about in Abortion Clinics.

"In my facilities, I always gave option counseling. Of course you make the abortion the most appealing. I told them about adoption and about foster care and about [when there was welfare] assistance. The typical way it would go is, "Well, you know you can place your baby out for adoption." But then, in the second breath you would say, "That's an option available to you, but you also have to realize that there's going to be a baby of yours out here somewhere in the world you will never see again.
At least with abortion you know what's happening. You can go on with your life...

The longer I was in it, the less I cared, so I really didn't really care what my conscience said. My conscience was totally numb anyway. But what it did do was public relations-wise. You were able, when a reporter or TV crew came, to pull out a packet of information for the patients to read and they received it. So what can anybody say? Publicly it looked good -- in reality it was another tool that was used to force a woman into abortion. It's typical -- I would give them an option and then shoot it down. The only option you didn't shoot down, obviously, was abortion."

Former clinic owner Eric Harrah quoted by Dr. Jack Willke and Brad Mattes

"I was trained by a professional marketing director in how to sell abortions over the telephone. He took every one of our receptionists, nurses, and anyone else who would deal with people over the phone through an extensive training period. The object was, when the girl called, to hook the sale so that she wouldn't get an abortion somewhere else, or adopt out her baby, or change her mind. We were doing it for the money."

--Nina Whitten, chief secretary at a Dallas abortion clinic under Dr. Curtis Boyd

"If a woman we were counseling expressed doubts about having an abortion, we would say whatever was necessary to persuade her to abort immediately."

--Judy W., former office manager of the second largest abortion clinic in El Paso, Texas

"The counselor at our clinic would cry with the girls at the drop of a hat. She would find theirweakness and work on it. The women were never given any alternatives. They were told how much trouble it is to have a baby."

--former abortion worker Debra Harry, quoted in the film "Meet the Abortion Providers" 1989

"Sometimes we lied. A girl might ask what her baby was like at a certain point in the pregnancy: Was it a baby yet? Even as early as 12 weeks a baby is totally formed, he has fingerprints, turns his head, fans his toes, feels pain. But we would say 'It's not a baby yet. It's just tissue, like a clot.'"

--Kathy Sparks told in "The Conversion of Kathy Sparks" by Gloria Williamson, Christian Herald Jan 1986 p 28

"They scheduled me for an 'endometrial aspiration' which they said would start my period ... I didn't know if I was pregnant. The doctor ... used a machine to suck out the contents of my uterus. The pain was excruciating. After he finished he said, 'Do you want to know if you were pregnant?' ... I was shocked to realize I had an abortion. I was never given a choice ... I realize I've lost my child forever."


"When I became pregnant with my second child the doctor wanted me to have an abortion. He said that one or both of us would die. I wanted this child so I decided to trust God that He would work it out like He wanted to.....I had an uneventful pregnancy after this and delivered a healthy beautiful baby girl. She is seventeen now, an honor student and a gifted musician....."

"We are parents of an eleven year old and an eight year old. Last year we were informed that I was pregnant again. Surprise! It may have been a surprise but we knew this was Gods plan. At seventeen weeks I was told the baby had Downs Syndrome. I was asked three different times if I wanted an abortion. We trusted God and said "No". We now have that baby..her name is Makayla and she is perfect! In fact she is doing things ahead of her age group!...."

Max's mom was 15 at the time she went for a verification of pregnancy. Planned Parenthood told her that she should abort as she was too small. She didn't, and she graduated from high school first in her class when Max was 18 months old. He is now the proud brother of three sisters...